Contents: introduction, guest appearances, further reading, transcript, sources, credits
"It's not going to take a few dozen, or a few hundred, or a couple thousand people working on this. We're going to need many more people working on this." (Marcius Extavour)
These days, we talk about carbon removal at the scale of tonnes - hundreds...even thousands of them. Over the coming decades, we will likely need to be talking at the scale of billions. So how do we get there?
And how can a young carbon removal business progress from "one small step" to many giant leaps towards healing humankind's climate conundrum?
In this episode, join Emily and Tom as we ponder a new carbon removal business, and search for the support that could get it off the ground. Marcius from XPRIZE lets us in on how we can get our slice of Elon Musk's $100m pie; Patricia from the Carbon Removal Centre opens our eyes to a community raring to go; and Brennan from Patch gives us the key to unlock the potential of carbon marketplaces. Let the air mining rush begin...
There's no doubting that we have a long way to go yet, but this episode will leave you feeling more optimistic and determined to scale the scaling up mountain.
This episode's guests
Many thanks to our excellent guests in this episode:
- Marcius Extavour, Vice President, Energy & Climate at XPRIZE
- Patricia Silva, Co-founder and Non-Executive Director at the Carbon Removal Centre & Investment and Deal Management at Green Angel Syndicate
- Brennan Spellacy, Co-founder and CEO of Patch
Want to delve deeper now you've listened to the show? Look no further than the list below of articles, podcasts and other resources. They helped us to learn more about how we might scale carbon removal to where it needs to be, and we think you might like them too...
| Name | Publisher | Publishing/Release Date | Source | Summary | Tag(s) | Type |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Carbon removal hype is becoming a dangerous distraction | MIT Technology Review | July 8, 2021 | CriticismCorporate pledges | Article | ||
Five rules for evidence communication | Nature | November 19, 2020 | A comment article in Nature, offering quick tips and experience from evidence communication. In short: inform, not persuade; offer balance, not false balance; disclose uncertainties; state evidence quality and inoculate against misinformation (i.e. "prebunking" - address concerns or potential misunderstandings directly). | Evidence communication | Article | |
Nan Ransohoff and Ryan Orbuch, Stripe Climate Team | My Climate Journey | September 4, 2020 | A conversation with two key members of Stripe's climate team, who are responsible for the company's negative emissions commitment made in 2019. | Corporate pledgesPolicyOffsetsEconomics | Podcast | |
Carbon Capture Projects Map | Third Way | July 18, 2018 | Map of all active (operational, planned etc) carbon capture projects in the world. Good overview of what's going on where. Correct as of mid-2018. | Overview | Resource | |
A Matter of Degrees: Cleaning up the carbon mess | A Matter of Degrees | November 19, 2020 | An exploration of different ways that we can remove carbon from the atmosphere. A great place to start on your carbon removal journey. | OverviewOffsets | Podcast | |
Carbon Removal Mechanisms | Carbon Plan | July 24, 2020 | This article provides a very useful introduction to the carbon cycle, and how the carbon removal mechanisms discussed in the series interact with it. In particular, the distinction between avoided emissions and negative emissions is worth paying attention to. | Carbon cycleOverview | Article | |
Removing CO2 from the atmosphere won't save us | The Conversation | December 7, 2015 | An article from two climate scientists, explaining why we must prioritise emission reductions over carbon removals. Published during the Paris climate conference in 2015. | CriticismScaling up | Article | |
Carbon removal academy (free course) | John Sanchez | November 30, 2020 | Academy with articles, videos and other useful resources split into different chapters. The Carbon Removal Academy is a useful course for getting up to speed with all things carbon removal. | Overview | Resource | |
From tree planting to CO2-sucking machines: How could ‘negative emissions’ help to tackle the climate crisis? | The Independent | February 10, 2021 | A good overview of negative emissions in general, including the challenges faced by each NET | Overview | Article | |
Without carbon capture, the world can't meet its climate targets | Forbes | January 10, 2021 | Article | |||
We need to take CO2 out of the sky | Ryan Orbuch | February 22, 2020 | A carbon removal 101, written by a non-specialist after a few months of learning. Useful for understanding different measurements of CO2, and for accessing his own reading list for "negative emissions" | OverviewMeasuring CO2 | Article | |
Carbon Removal Glossary | Foresight Transitions | March 1, 2021 | This spreadsheet provides definitions for well over 100 phrases associated with carbon removal. | Overview | Resource | |
Public perceptions of carbon dioxide removal in the United States and the United Kingdom | Nature | July 1, 2020 | A study of public perceptions of CDR in the UK and US - lots of interesting findings to dig into, including outlining some of the objections that the public may raise to the use of CDR. | Public perceptions | Academic Journal | |
Intro to 10 'negative emission' technologies | Carbon Brief | April 11, 2016 | A whistle-stop tour of 10 major techniques to remove GHGs from atmosphere, along with a helpful diagram and set of explanations. | Overview | Article | |
Carbon Dioxide Removal Primer | Various authors | January 1, 2021 | A summary of all things carbon dioxide removal related, written by several experts in the field. An invaluable resource, available as a book or freely available online. | Overview | Resource | |
Negative Emissions source materials | Stripe | May 1, 2020 | A link to applications completed by different CDR projects for support as part of Stripe's negative emissions commitment | Corporate pledgesOverview | Resource | |
The Earth's Carbon Cycle: animated diagram | Robert Rohde | May 22, 2019 | Really nice video of the cabron cycle and how it has changed since pre-industrial era | Carbon cycle | Video | |
Greenhouse gases must be scrubbed from the air | The Economist | November 16, 2017 | An early introduction to the need for extracting CO2 from the atmosphere, for hard-to-abate sectors. Uses the example of Sweden's decarbonisation pledge. | Overview | Article | |
Carbon removal permanence calculator | Carbon Plan | December 9, 2020 | This calculator estimates the upfront costs needed to make a temporary carbon removal strategy permanent over time, and allows comparisons with more permanent techniques. | Carbon cyclePermanenceEconomics | Resource | |
We need to talk about carbon removal | Medium | October 1, 2018 | General | Article | ||
The positive allure of negative emissions | GreenBiz | August 9, 2019 | Article |
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Credits
The Carbon Removal Show is a Restored.cc and Cofruition production. We are sponsored by Patch. Here's who made this episode happen:
- Emily Swaddle & Tom Previte - co-hosts
- Ben Weaver-Hincks - producer
- Henry Irvine - researcher
- Sam Floy & Patrick Carter - project managers
- Mercy Barno - editor
- Sam Carter - music producer
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